Hiro Antagonist ([info]hiro_antagonist) wrote,
@ 2008-08-12 23:33:00
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Buying Politicians
The political scene in the United States of America is fraught with the buying and selling of political power, and politicians themselves.

The system is what is truly at fault though, as human beings can only react as well as their circumstances and nature allow. In other words, if you put a steak in front of a starving man, and tell him not to eat it, well... Don't hold out much hope for that steak sticking around.

If human beings are corruptible by nature, the solution does not lie in electing a better politician, but rather in fixing the system that elects them and rules on what they can and cannot do.

Part of the problem is that lobbying is allowed. Another part of the problem is that it's legal to give gifts and money to politicians, and politicians need money to get into office, and when re-election comes around, to stay in office.

If someone contributes money, they'll have influence proportional to the amount of money they contribute. Some have tried to restrict donations to a level that the average citizen can compete with - ie, no donations over what a well off person could manage, but there's always ways around that. The best and simplest solution is simply to make donations illegal, and to have campaigns funded by the state.


Another part of the problem is "Who do politicians listen to?". Lobbyists tend to be very good at chatting up politicians. How do you prevent lobbyists from having undue influence on politicians? If they can't buy them, they'll buy people who specialize in being friends with politicians, and politicians will suddenly have no lack of friends who have well thought out views on certain issues.

Joe Smith at home can't compete with that. Nor should he have to.

How to solve the second of these two problems, I don't know yet. I'm going to be thinking about it though. It's time for a second American Revolution, a bloodless reform of a corrupted political system. Government doesn't have to suck. It can be better. It will be better.




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[info]dizietsma
2008-08-13 12:26 pm UTC (link)
I was with you right up until "and to have campaigns funded by the state."

I'm not sure I want every extremeist crackpot with an agenda running for office on my tax money.

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2008-08-13 12:40 pm UTC (link)
The hope is to make the job so boring that it becomes just another civil service job like the Postal Service.

No one cares who's the post master of whatever city, yet they do have power and make decisions. If only political office could be the same way.

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[info]dizietsma
2008-08-14 02:15 am UTC (link)
Politicians get to make the rules the rest of us live by. It is a job favoured by power-hungry dickheads the world over.

Post masters ensure we get our mail on time while minimizing expenses. It is a job favoured by accountants and other perfectionists.

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2008-08-14 03:17 am UTC (link)
The best thing to do is to keep people who'd seek the job away from it. To do that, it'd have to be done in a way similar to jury selection, with the eligible populace in a pool that can be selected from at random, though the requirements might have to be set a bit higher, ie, able to pass the civil service test.

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[info]peristaltor
2008-08-13 07:52 pm UTC (link)
First things first. We need to make sure the elections are fair before tackling the by comparison minor matter of campaign funding.

One step at a time.

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2008-08-13 09:26 pm UTC (link)
Eh, I don't think that one has to come before the other, logistically speaking. You could even do both at the same time!

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[info]peristaltor
2008-08-14 07:41 pm UTC (link)
And while we're at it, we can:

  • Prevent media outlets from biased coverage of businesses and individuals who buy ads from the outlets;
  • Force those same outlets to clearly label and separate factual reporting and editorial opinion;
  • Hold those same outlets accountable for inaccurate reportage . . . .


  • It's like trying to stick your thumb in an increasing number of holes. Eventually, you either succeed . . . or the dike fails. Right now, I'm betting on a deluge of fail.

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