Hiro Antagonist ([info]hiro_antagonist) wrote,
@ 2009-05-12 06:15:00
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Entry tags:ethics, humanity, law, politics

Who ever implied that modern copyright was morally right, or even fair?



"I don't use P2P but for everyone else I say go for it. Rob those bastards blind. Why? One sentence: Steamboat Willie is still under copyright. Think about that for a minute. That man has been worm food (or a Popsicle depending on who you believe) for a half a fricking century and yet his first work, one made when cars were started with a crank and antibiotics were just a crazy dream, is STILL under copyright.

Copyrights were a CONTRACT, nothing more. In return for a LIMITED copyright We, The People got a richer Public Domain. Instead they used outright bribery to corrupt our politicians and buy our laws away from us. So I say screw the thieving bastards. Let them rot. They used their money to steal our public domain away from us so if someone wants to steal from the thieves I say more power to them. I just can't be bothered because I honestly think their product is shit and isn't even worth stealing. But frankly expecting us to feel so sorry for those thieving bastards is just pushing it too far. Put the copyrights back to the way they were for over a century and quit robbing our public domain!"
-hairyfeet


Certainly raises a few interesting points. Especially one that's usually forgotten in the US - what is legal is not always right, and what is right is not always legal. Just because you do something does not mean you can demand compensation for it.

Music used to only be something one could get money for by performing live (pre-1800's). It's actually still that way today for artists, just not the parasitic companies that represent them.

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[info]siredurado
2009-05-12 11:45 am UTC (link)
Some very good points there!

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[info]crazy_female
2009-05-12 12:36 pm UTC (link)
Agreed.

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OT
[info]siredurado
2009-05-12 02:44 pm UTC (link)
But that is such an awesome username!

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[info]hey_kayla_jay
2009-05-12 02:32 pm UTC (link)
I actually saw on MTV some years ago that Walt Disney really was buried. The cameras went to his grave and everything. It's tucked away in this random cemetary somewhere and the headstone is very ordinary looking, it's nothing special at all.

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2009-05-12 02:53 pm UTC (link)
you sure it wasn't like this?

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[info]hey_kayla_jay
2009-05-12 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Hahaha, yes I'm sure :p

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2009-05-12 10:51 pm UTC (link)
Sigh. Oh well. I'd had high hopes that it was ;)

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[info]jetpackjunkie
2009-05-12 06:08 pm UTC (link)
"the headstone is very ordinary looking, it's nothing special at all"

Except for the giant marble ears :)

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[info]hey_kayla_jay
2009-05-12 08:16 pm UTC (link)
*GASP* I don't recall any giant marble ears! I'm sure you're talking about the same show I am but I can only remember being like "that's it?"

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[info]jetpackjunkie
2009-05-12 11:50 pm UTC (link)
They're hidden, you need to follow a series of clues (play "its a small world" backwards).

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[info]oneworldvision
2009-05-12 05:24 pm UTC (link)
Last year I wrote a paper on copyright laws and the ethical questions they raise, especially in the digital age. I was offered the opportunity to go a bit further with it, and although I wasn't able to take my professor up on that it's still something I really feel strongly about.

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2009-05-12 06:21 pm UTC (link)
You could always write more about it!

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[info]laviemoderne
2009-05-12 06:10 pm UTC (link)
"Certainly raises a few interesting points. Especially one that's usually forgotten in the US - what is legal is not always right, and what is right is not always legal. Just because you do something does not mean you can demand compensation for it. "

AMEN!
I support (and feel bad for) the artists, but I certainly have no sympathy for the thieving bastards that (mis)"represent" them.

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2009-05-12 06:23 pm UTC (link)
There's so many people that say copyright infringement is against the law, but they assume that the law is some sort of unquestionable moral paragon, never stopping to think that a law could be quite morally wrong, but still legal. Slavery is always a fine example of this paradox.

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[info]laviemoderne
2009-05-12 06:35 pm UTC (link)
Yeah dude, slavery is the obvious example. Most of our laws, particulary in recard to ecconomics and the environment are totally immoral. Not that I'm daring to question the validity of our great corporate overlords. No sireee.

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2009-05-12 06:42 pm UTC (link)
The problem is that corporations have the money for lots of effective lobbyists, and the will of the common man is rarely that focused, so corporations get a lot more laws favorable to them than the common man does :/

It's like Washington politicians let Wormtongue buy them a nice lobster dinner and sat down to chat, and realized all of the sudden what a great idea a certain law would be!

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[info]laviemoderne
2009-05-12 07:23 pm UTC (link)
That's the sad truth.

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[info]theophania
2009-05-12 09:38 pm UTC (link)
Ooh I absolutely love! this entry! May I link to it? I also agree with you. Rebetika, the kind of music I love the most, had it's golden age in the 30's and 40's, with some stuff even as far back as the 20's. 99% of all the singers and performers are dead. So who the fuck is gonna get the money? Surely not their descendents. I wouldn't mind giving to them but it's the big companies which take the cash. Still, in this specific case, alot of time, devotion and money is put into finding/buying these 78s, remastering them and reissuing them on cd so... But I still download as much as I can. Otherwise, I'd be totally broke. lol

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[info]hiro_antagonist
2009-05-12 10:51 pm UTC (link)
Sure!

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